Let's Make Them Fight Each Other

Oh no: do the Christian creationists know that by taking down Darwin they might inadvertently aid Eastern religions? Witness: the Bhaktivedanta Institute Newsletter. Personally I want a grunge match between the Discovery Institute and the Bhaktivedanta Institute to see who can out pseudoscience each other. “No my psychogenetic fallacy definitely trumps your silly fallacy of division!”

Among many gems in this newsletter, I particularly like their statement of purpose:

Modern science has generally been directed toward investigating the material world, excluding consideration of the conscious scientist who is essential to the whole process, since, of course, the nature of the scientific endeavor itself depends upon consciousness.

Anyone who thinks that science depends on consciousness hasn’t witnessed sleep deprived graduate students in the lab 🙂
Oh, and as an added bonus, here is a video for those who want to see genetic arguments used toreason about Noah’s ark.

3 Replies to “Let's Make Them Fight Each Other”

  1. Any day I can learn the definitions of two logical fallacies is a good day.
    As for “the scientific endeavor itself depends upon consciousness”, I hope they realize that there are many robots doing repetitive lab work, and scores of supercomputers analyzing the data.
    All we need now is a good genetic algorithm to help determine the most promising lines on scientific inquiry and, with the aforementioned sleep-deprived grad students, we could (hypothetically) remove consciousness from everything in science but the peer-review.

  2. We thought you might be interested —
    SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST
    Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life
    January-March 2008
    Bhaktivedanata Institute’s latest quarterly newsletter
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    Modern science has generally been directed toward investigating
    the material world, excluding consideration of the conscious
    scientist who is essential to the whole process, since, of
    course, the very existence of the scientific endeavor itself
    depends upon consciousness. Complete scientific knowledge must
    consequently include both objective science and subjective
    consciousness.
    In addition to other programs, Bhaktivedanta Institute’s Science
    and Scientist Newsletter is humbly offered to inspire scientists
    and scholars to contribute their sincere efforts toward
    developing this grand synthesis. The result will be valuable not
    only for helping to better understand the “hard” problems of
    science such as the nature and origin of life and the cosmos, the
    mind-brain connection, artificial intelligence, etc. But the
    pressing problems of ethics in science, world peace, and
    interfaith dialog will also benefit from a more inclusive
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    In our modern era science and religion are the predominating
    influences determining the fate of mankind. Promoting and
    developing a culture of harmony between such diverse fields has
    the potential to expand our conception of reality and advance
    human knowledge in the new millennium, in which it is said the
    study of life will be pre-eminent. Let us welcome the dawn of
    that new epoch with great hope and determined endeavor.
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