{"id":1042,"date":"2005-08-24T20:45:16","date_gmt":"2005-08-25T03:45:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/?p=1042"},"modified":"2005-08-24T20:45:16","modified_gmt":"2005-08-25T03:45:16","slug":"1042","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/2005\/08\/24\/1042\/","title":{"rendered":"Dean of Evolution"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so I know I said no more politics.  But opening the paper every morning and seeing a new pro-intelligent design politician blather at the mouth (today was John McCain&#8217;s turn), it&#8217;s good to see another famous political blatherer actually blathering something sensible.  So I present, via <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/pharyngula\/\">Pharyngula<\/a>, via &#8220;Face the Nation&#8221; Howard Dean:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nMr. Harris:  Were you troubled by President Bush&#8217;s endorsement that intelligent design should be taught alongside the evolution to schoolchildren?<br \/>\nDr. Dean: The president has been anti-science for a long time. This is the most antiscientific regime that I&#8217;ve seen in America in my lifetime. I&#8217;m a trained physician, as you&#8217;re aware. I&#8217;m insulted by that. It&#8217;s going to harm America. What serious business is going to invest in America if a scientific education is influenced by politics? Science ought to be taught as science. If you want to teach religion, that&#8217;s a separate debate. But science should be taught as science.<br \/>\nSchieffer: What is intelligent design? What do you think of that idea?<br \/>\nDr. Dean: I think it&#8217;s a religious idea. And actually, Einstein thought that there was some merit to it. Who am I to question Albert Einstein? But that is not&#8211;a religious idea is different than a scientific design. The idea that&#8211;and I don&#8217;t think science and religion are incompatible. That&#8217;s the thing that amazed me about this. You don&#8217;t have to disbelieve evolution in order to be a religious person. So I don&#8217;t understand why these folks continue to try to have this debate. But the truth of the matter is, intelligent design is a religious perception and a religious precept. That&#8217;s fine. That should be taught wherever religion is taught, if that&#8217;s the desire of those people who are religious.<br \/>\nScience is science. There&#8217;s no factual evidence for intelligent design. There&#8217;s an enormous amount of factual evidence for evolution. Those are the facts. If you don&#8217;t like the facts, then you can fight against them. The Catholic Church fought against Galileo for a great many, many centuries. But it never pays to ignore the facts. Reason we&#8217;re in trouble in Iraq right now, president didn&#8217;t care what the facts were. Reason we have a $7 trillion, almost $8 trillion national debt, president didn&#8217;t care what the facts were. The facts matter. The truth is, you can&#8217;t run a business, a state, a country or a family if you don&#8217;t care what the facts are.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not perfect, but hell I&#8217;ll take anything I can get these days.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so I know I said no more politics. But opening the paper every morning and seeing a new pro-intelligent design politician blather at the mouth (today was John McCain&#8217;s turn), it&#8217;s good to see another famous political blatherer actually blathering something sensible. So I present, via Pharyngula, via &#8220;Face the Nation&#8221; Howard Dean: Mr. &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/2005\/08\/24\/1042\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Dean of Evolution&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[56,78],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1042","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-society"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1042","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1042"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1042\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1042"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1042"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dabacon.org\/pontiff\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1042"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}